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Name: Vivek Venugopalan
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I work for a software services company called Wipro Technologies that is located around the globle. My home is in the wonderful city of Chennai (a.k.a Madras) in India. I live in Adyar for those who know the city.

I like to dabble on Linux which I run on an old DEC AlphaStation 4/166.

My interests include Configuration management and other software development practices that relate to the operational areas of software development.

I am a PMI certified project manager.

Email Contact: vivek at magic-cauldron dot com

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OK. Its Adios time for me and adgvogato. I am moving to a new Blog called JRoller This provides me with new features that I dont get here. Thanks everyone for your support and faith. My new blog will appear on Vivek's weblog


Bought a netgear 814 router. I can go wifi now! I actually have ethernet running thruogh the house but never had a need for it so far since we had setup one of our bedrooms as the place where all the computers were to be placed. Now I have a laptop so I need a more "mobile " connection. I just found out that the router has a problem with pinging the NTP servers at U Wisc. The details about the problem is available here and a patch posted by NetGear is available here.

I think I have a V2. So I probably don't have a problem.

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Sun, Aug 30, 2003

OK. I am back at this again!

Sun, Aug 24, 2003


Spent the whole day cleaning up all my paperwork today. Archived most of the old paperwork to a carton box. Felt good about getting rid of various old paperwork.


My wife asked me why I am not updating the diary anymore. So I am back at it again. Need to find the time to write this.

Oh - did I mention, I do have a new laptop an IBM thinkpad - 1.8 Ghz P4 with 512 MB of RAM. Real nice piece of hardware. Too bad it run MS Word and Excel all the time - occupational hazard I guess :-)

Sun, Aug 17, 2003


I have been thinking about XP and the need for large amounts of data for testing in a large project that uses Test Driven Development. Let me explain this better.

In any large projects, to perform unit test of some part of the system there is a need for certain amount of preconditions to be setup initially. A good example in an e-commerce system is to consider the scenario of checking out a shopping cart by providing address, credit cards etc.,. The first precondition would be that the user must be logged in to the system to perform the checkout. This is the easier part - TDD can login the user as part of the test case.

This is precondition that is represented as session data in the application. This is different from the data requirements of the application.

The real data requirement is that the user must exist in the system's database so that he can log in. To checkout a product, the product must be added to the shopping cart. To add a product to the shopping cart, the product must exist in the product database. Thus we have another data requirement that should be setup before we can perform testing on the checkout process. This is the data requirement of the checkout process that will increase exponentially due to the various test cases required for the checkout process.

The checkout process probably requires more information to be setup before it can perform its task - for example price of the product, any discounts on the product, tax information so on and on. This is the exponential amount of data that I am referring to. Add to this, each test case will require different types of products to be setup that will require all the additional data fixtures.

How do we solve this ? I have not seen a solution that is convincing enough for this problem. Anybody has any ideas ?


Everybody seems to think that Ant is a good thing. Having been involved with Java development for over four years now and having used Ant for nearly two years, I think I wholeheartedly agree with the world at large. Having said that, I have been thinking about why is it that Ant is considered "good". I think the answer lies in what ant provides as regular services and how it provides them. I am not referring to the laundrylist of features that is supported but more importantly the fact that the development team for Ant understands development so well that they have captured the essence of tools required for a development (compile it, package it, deploy it, transfer to remote systems etc., ) in such a fashion that it is available within a single environment (the ant buidl script) and accessible in a consistent fashion (the build.xml). I think this is the key to its success there is no single tool on earth that will let you checkout, compile and do FTP at the same time. I think this is the pattern in which tools for software development must be developed to be successful.

Thu, Jul 17, 2003


Went home at 2:00 AM last night , got to bed at 3:00 and wife woke me up at 7:00 AM. So feeling a little run down today. Lots of trouble at work resulting in late work.

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Have not made much progress on the DocBook website development. I should probably work on it full time this weekend to have a decent website for cvspermissions.


Work is going on at a slower pace now. The site is live and running OK. We are handling the load that is coming on to it right now. Now the process of tuning things to make them run faster is in progress. Hopefully we will get some more out of the iron!

Open Source MichaelCrawford posted an article on Advogato about the GFDL and how some of the linux distribution will be treating the license. I am not aware of what the problems are with the license as well as the implications. But I do have all my articles on GFDL. Do I need to change? Can someone volunteer some advise.

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