Today, I'm going to implement the DNS tree's for my companies the way they should be. But first, i need to figure out how that is s'posed to be. :-)

Ok... I'm hoping to get back in the groove of things.

The project 'gnoped' that I started working I'm declaring as dead. It was aimed to be a GNOME-compliant editor for PHP files / Websites with an integrated debugger. With *speed* in mind. I've officially shot it's bits into the bucket, because I found Screem. It's almost everything I wanted in a project minus the debugger. It's got some sort of plugin arch, so I may look at writing a plugin to handle some "stuff" from PEAR's APD module. Nothing definative has been thought on that yet though, just a bunch of high-level thinking.

Ugh.

Well, the good news is I finally got the mail services up for all the work domains. I wish it were under better circumstances, I was *NOT* prepared for our previous provider to cut our line off.

But now i've got my Courier-IMAP + MySQL + SquirrelMail + Amavis + SpamAssassin setup running for all of the domains. I am hoping to convince the boss soon to drop the Exchange Server, I really hate having to use fetchmail just to dump mail from the DMZ into the LAN's Exchange Server (but there's nofsckingway i'm putting that NT box out on the 'net.

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00104.html :

  

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     <rh_pr> We are announcing Red Hat Project! A community-based
  

             distribution!
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_pr: Neat.
  

    <rh_dev> rh_pr: Uh... I'm not ready.
  

           * rh_pr is away: promoting rhel
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: what do we do?
  

    <rh_dev> oss_crowd: I'm not sure.
  

  <rh_legal> rh_dev: don't do anything until I say it's ok.
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: what can we do to help with Red Hat Project?
  

    <rh_dev> oss_crowd: uh... file bugs and help test things.
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: didn't we always do that?
  

  <rh_sales> hey, all, if you really want a stable system, don't use
  

             fedora project. It will eat your brane. Buy RHEL instead.
  

    <rh_dev> rh_sales: stfu
  

         --- rh_pr removes voice from rh_sales
  

 <fedora_us> hey, all, check out our neat community-driven system for
  

             red hat development
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_us: ooooh!
  

     <rh_pr> fedora_us: I like your name
  

         --- fedora_rh joined the channel
  

  <rh_legal> much better
  

     <rh_pr> We are announcing Fedora Project! A community-driven
  

             distribution!
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_pr: Neat!
  

           * fedora_rh waves
  

 <fedora_us> I'm not dead yet.
  

 <fedora_rh> fedora_us: don't confuse things.
  

 <fedora_us> fedora_rh: does this mean we're merging?
  

 <fedora_rh> fedora_us: maybe
  

  <rh_legal> fedora_rh: don't do anything until I say it's ok.
  

         --- fedora_us joined #limbo
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: so, what can we do to help?
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: uh... file bugs and help test things.
  

 <oss_crowd> sigh... didn't we always do that?
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: I know, let's all go in the circle and say our
  

             names.
  

           * oss_crowd goes in the circle and says their names. This
  

             lasts several months.
  

 <fedora_rh> So, there will be the following features in the next
  

             release of Fedora Core.
  

 <oss_crowd> Uh... Hold on. Who gets to decide?
  

  <rh_sales> We do. That stuff will be neato for RHEL-4.
  

 <oss_crowd> MMkay, then. When do _we_ get to suggest things?
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: feel free to talk among yourselves.
  

           * oss_crowd talks among themselves about new features.
  

 <fedora_rh> btw, feature X will be disabled in the release.
  

           * oss_crowd glares at fedora_rh
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: nice of you to tell us while we were sitting
  

             here talking.
  

    <rh_dev> oss_crowd: sorry, it's just not happening.
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: when do we get to decide what's happening?
  

    <rh_dev> oss_crowd: Dunno, I'll ask rh_legal
  

  <rh_legal> rh_dev: ugh, /msg me
  

  <rh_sales> rh_dev: let's not do anything rash here.
  

           * fedora_us gets tired of sitting in #limbo
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: I want to see more of the "community" part of
  

             the whole "community-based" thing
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: how about at least a publicly accessible CVS/SVN
  

             tree?
  

    <rh_dev> oss_crowd: Yeah, that would be cool.
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: finally, some movement. When is that going to be
  

             up?
  

           * rh_dev is away: talking to rh_legal
  

           * oss_crowd tries to occupy themselves and do things like
  

             fedoranews and fedorapeople.
  

 <oss_crowd> Uh... ping?
  

 <fedora_uh> oss_crowd: what's up?
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: We're feeling kinda useless. What exactly is our
  

             role, again?
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: well, it would be really helpful if you could
  

             test some things and file the bugs.
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: ugh. We ALWAYS did that.
  

           * oss_crowd begins to wonder what exactly is the purpose of
  

             fedora_rh
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: it's the open-development, proving-grounds for
  

             new technology component of Red Hat, as opposed to RHEL.
  

  <rh_sales> Told ya it'll eat your brane.
  

         --- rh_pr kicks rh_sales from the channel (you're a dolt)
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: so, let me get this straight. Effectively, you
  

             want us to download the packages you release, test things,
  

             file bugs, and submit patches.
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: Sure, why not?
  

 <oss_crowd> ...but when it comes to things like features, direction of
  

             the project, and which software to include in the
  

             distribution, it's the decision of Red Hat?
  

           * fedora_rh is away: I AM RH
  

 <fedora_us> I'm still not dead.
  

 <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: How is that different from how things were
  

             before the whole "publicly-supported distribution" thing?
  

 <oss_crowd> rh_dev: where is that long-promised public CVS/SVN repo?
  

    <rh_dev> dunno, talk to fedora_rh
  

 <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: look, such things don't happen in a week, ok?
  

 <oss_crowd> IT'S BEEN A YEAR!
  

         --- rh_sales joined the channel
  

  <rh_sales> EAT YOUR BRAAAAAANE.
  

 <oss_crowd> /mode +b rh_sales
  

         --- You're not ops in here.
  

 <oss_crowd> figures
  

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