10 Aug 2005 roozbeh   » (Master)

i18n and L10n: Apparently, this diary reaches places that email can’t. So I am reposting my and Danilo’s recent announcement here:

We have created a list for discussing of locale-related functionality in
GNOME, and creating a library, mostly using the Unicode CLDR
information, which is not available in glibc locale files. The CLDR data
is currently used in Sun's OpenOffice.Org, IBM's ICU, and Apple's Mac
This was needed because most of these things were happening in translations instead of proper locales, mostly for two things:
1) The glibc locale data and functionality is limited to what it is, and does not include some features users would require in some locales, including genitive dates for Slavic languages and alternative calendars for middle eastern countries.
Also, glibc data doesn't include what many applications could use for better functionality, like locale-specific exemplar characters, quotation marks, country, language, locale, and timezone names, extended currency info, text direction, holiday info, and general data about which script a language is written in, in which countries there are a commercially important number of speakers, and how countries should be divided to avoid a flat list.
2) Getting any patch into glibc locale data files or subsystem would require spending a lot of time, most of in waiting. (While we understand some of the reasons behind that, we can't usually wait that much.)
The basic plan is to create a nice and clean API, and then providing easy access to commonly desired functionality such as date and time formatting, per-user customisation and broader support for locale data. We also hope that library resulting from this effort will find its use beyond Gnome, so we invite everybody else to help us define and develop it.
The list is at:
You can find about the CLDR project at:
For the discussion that led to the creation of the list, see:
Looking forward to your feedback and help,
Roozbeh Pournader, Danilo Šegan

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