20 Dec 2006 fejj   » (Master)

bi: you still fail to offer any evidence to the contrary. Is it safe to conclude, then, that you have none and that there is the possibility that what I have stated is truth?

Also, there were other compelling reasons to go to war with Iraq than simply the question of whether they had WMDs, as I pointed out in my last post which you failed to bother to even acknowledge (you focused only on one small portion of what I wrote to critique).

As to the issue of the Iraqi people being worse now than they were because of the mortality rate?

I present to you the following statistics in rebuttal (from markhumphrys.com ):

Opinion Polls in Iraq

Johann Hari on opinion polls after the war: "So what we now know is that on the day of the anti-war rally, with all the caveats ... a majority of Iraqis were saying: "Better this invasion than what we faced otherwise." They would not have been marching with you. They would have been marching for the invasion."

July 2003

Post-liberation, the majority of Iraqis in Iraq support the war! (also here and here and here and here)

Sept 2003

What Iraqis Really Think, September 10, 2003 (also here)

  • The majority oppose an Islamic state.
  • When asked what country they would want Iraq to be like - Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt or the US - the US was the no.1 answer.
  • The majority want to punish the Baath Party rather than forgive their crimes.
  • The majority want America to stay longer.

Mar 2004

Survey

  • The majority who expressed an opinion supported the US invasion.
  • The majority think things are better now than before the war.
  • The majority oppose an Islamic state.
  • 80 percent oppose the fascist "resistance".
  • The majority want America to stay longer.

Who knows better: the Iraqi people or Spain's new PM? - discussion of the above survey by Janet Daley. Why does the ignorant socialist government of Spain listen to Al Qaeda on Iraq, instead of to the Iraqi people? Why do they do Al Qaeda's bidding on Iraq, instead of the bidding of the people of Iraq?

May 2004

Survey

  • 84 percent of Iraqis say Saddam is guilty of murdering their countrymen.
  • 83 percent say he was a torturer.
  • 61 percent say he deserves the death penalty.

June 2004

Survey

  • 76 per cent of Iraqis feel freer to express their political views in public today than under Saddam.
  • More than 80 per cent feel freer to exercise their religious beliefs.
  • 76 per cent do not believe their lives were made worse by the Coalition.
  • 85 per cent feel safer with CPA in place.

Dec 2004 - Jan 2005

Survey

Do you support military action against the so-called resistance? 88 percent said "Yes".

Dec 2005

Survey (see here)

  • 57 percent want democracy, 26 percent want a dictator, 14 percent want an Islamic state. Zarqawi is fighting for something that nobody wants. His stupid men are dying for something that nobody wants.
  • When should the allies leave Iraq? 26 percent say leave now. 66 percent say stay longer.
  • 80 percent of Kurds say the US was right to invade Iraq.
  • 58 percent of Shiites say the US was right to invade Iraq.

Jan 2006

Survey

"Thinking about any hardships you might have suffered since the US-Britain invasion, do you personally think that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth it or not?"

  • 77 percent of Iraqis think it was worth it.
  • The Sunnis regret the end of apartheid, but if we exclude them, 91 percent of Kurds say it was worth it, and 98 percent of Shias say it was worth it.

So, despite a higher mortality rate, the Iraqi people seem to prefer life post-Saddam as compared to under Saddam.

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