20 Dec 2006 (updated 20 Dec 2006 at 19:46 UTC)
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bi: you still fail to offer
any
evidence to the contrary. Is it safe to conclude, then,
that you have none and that there is the
possibility that what I have stated is truth?
Also, there were other compelling reasons to go to war
with Iraq than simply the question of whether they had
WMDs, as I pointed out in my last post which you failed to
bother to even acknowledge (you focused only on one small
portion of what I wrote to critique).
As to the issue of the Iraqi people being worse
now than they were because of the mortality rate?
I present to you the following statistics in rebuttal
(from markhumphrys.com
):
Opinion Polls in Iraq
Johann Hari on opinion polls after the war: "So what we
now know is that on the day of the anti-war rally, with
all the caveats ... a majority of Iraqis were
saying: "Better this invasion than what we faced
otherwise." They would not have been marching with you.
They would have been marching for the invasion."
July 2003
Post-liberation, the majority of Iraqis in Iraq support
the war! (also here and here and here and here)
Sept 2003
What Iraqis Really Think, September 10, 2003 (also here)
- The majority oppose an Islamic state.
- When asked what country they would want Iraq to be
like -
Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt or the US - the US was
the no.1 answer.
- The majority want to punish the Baath Party rather
than forgive their crimes.
- The majority want America to stay longer.
Mar 2004
Survey
- The majority who expressed an opinion supported the US
invasion.
- The majority think things are better now than before
the war.
- The majority oppose an Islamic state.
- 80 percent oppose the fascist "resistance".
- The majority want America to stay longer.
Who knows better: the Iraqi people or Spain's new PM? -
discussion of the above survey by Janet Daley. Why does
the ignorant socialist government of Spain listen to Al
Qaeda on Iraq, instead of to the Iraqi people? Why do they
do Al Qaeda's bidding on Iraq, instead of the bidding of
the people of Iraq?
May 2004
Survey
- 84 percent of Iraqis say Saddam is guilty of murdering
their countrymen.
- 83 percent say he was a torturer.
- 61 percent say he deserves the death penalty.
June 2004
Survey
- 76 per cent of Iraqis feel freer to express their
political views in public today than under Saddam.
- More than 80 per cent feel freer to exercise their
religious beliefs.
- 76 per cent do not believe their lives were made worse
by the Coalition.
- 85 per cent feel safer with CPA in place.
Dec 2004 - Jan 2005
Survey
Do you support military action against the so-called
resistance? 88 percent said "Yes".
Dec 2005
Survey (see here)
- 57 percent want democracy, 26 percent want a dictator,
14 percent want an Islamic state. Zarqawi is fighting for
something that nobody wants. His stupid men are dying for
something that nobody wants.
- When should the allies leave Iraq? 26 percent say
leave now. 66 percent say stay longer.
- 80 percent of Kurds say the US was right to invade
Iraq.
- 58 percent of Shiites say the US was right to invade
Iraq.
Jan 2006
Survey
"Thinking about any hardships you might have suffered
since the US-Britain invasion, do you personally think
that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth it or not?"
- 77 percent of Iraqis think it was worth it.
- The Sunnis regret the end of apartheid, but if we
exclude them, 91 percent of Kurds say it was worth it, and
98 percent of Shias say it was worth it.
So, despite a higher mortality rate, the Iraqi people
seem to prefer life post-Saddam as compared to under
Saddam.