15 Jun 2002 Cardinal   » (Journeyer)

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Sigh. I promised myself I wouldn't comment on this mess, but it's consuming the recentlog to the extent that it's actually degrading the value of the forum. So, what he hell. Into the fire.

Quoting one of bytesplit's many entries from today (or yesterday, by the time I finish these thoughts),

No, tk, you see someone who originally came to advogato.org to respond to someone else's childish games of slander.

This was a poor decision, I think. You've been basing your comments over the past three weeks on the assertion that you are a reasonable, mature adult. Yet the only reason you came to this forum was the lack of what I consider to be one basic aspect of maturity, that of restraint.

I can appreciate the affect that being publically insulted has on one's state of mind. We've all gotten caught up in a heated discussion before. I doubt there's a mailing list yet that I've been on where at least one flamewar didn't get personal and people got carried away. It happens, we're human. However, generally we learn from mistakes, and posting to a mailing list when emotions are running high is never a good idea. The same certainly goes for web forums.

But this mess, I think, is a slightly different situation. Sure, chipx86 may have been out of line in what he said, but to be blunt, I seriously doubt anyone who read his advogato diary knew who you were, or cared, until you felt it necessary to confront him here. Given some time to pause and avoid acting on heated emotions, I would like to think the option to ignore his post here would've been the preferred way to go.

Instead, we've witnessed your persistant efforts to get the last word in. In the process, labeling everyone who has disagreed with your view a child, an idiot, and morally bankrupt. This is hardly behavior that is likely to improve the situation in any way.

A couple quotes I find ironic, then I'm done.

i am known as a very fair person, by both people on this site and off. who they are is not important to you, their opinion is. and, i like to keep it that way. you treat me like shit, you'll get it right back!

Yes, very fair. An eye for an eye, truly an adult way of dealing with a situation. I won't pretend to suggest I'd have done any better in the same situation, I couldn't say that with certainty. But surely the contradiction in that sentence wasn't lost on you, if even after the fact.

So, I'll do the admirable thing: ignore the trolls and the liars and let them wallow in their own misery. I'm just going to use this site for what it was meant to be used for, unlike some others who like to start public battles on here.

You said that over a week ago, but it didn't seem to stick. Maybe a second try is in order. Don't try to get an agreement from everyone who has commented, that's not important. Just let the matter drop, and others probably will too. And if they don't, re-read the quote.

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