Apple uses DMCA

mirroring the files since i saw them talked about on slashdot:

http://gilbou.shacknet.nu/soft/playfair-0.1.tar.gz http://gilbou.shacknet.nu/soft/playfair-0.2.tar.gz

my own machine. no isp there to change or remove them ;)

Is anyone really surprised that SourceForge took the files down? The DMCA is bad law, but it is the law in the US (until some court strikes it down), and it says pretty clearly that the penalty for "trafficking" in something like PlayFair is five years in jail. This is something that anyone thinking of mirroring the sofware should carefully consider. If you feel that your principles compel you to engage in civil disobedience, there's still the question of whether this is the right test case for fighting the DMCA.

The EU, Australia, and a lot of other places appear to be putting DMCA-like laws in place. One of the few safe countries for this type of development appears to be Norway (not an EU member), where courts have ruled DeCSS legal.

i do not live in thu us right now. but as something close to the dmca spirit is going to get into french law after it has been adopted by europe, i might have to remove those files sometime. anyway, trying to remove a file from internet is like trying to get urine someone pourred into a swimming pool back ;)

Should GNU-Darwin become another victim of outsourcing?

Ah sorry, apparently India is no good any more ;-}. The worm turns again.

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/04/16/1358215.shtml?tid=107&tid=123&tid=141&tid=187&tid=188&tid=99

Although this is quite predictable, it is still infuriating. We must come up with a more vigorous response to this outrage. Apple cannot be allowed to kill a free software project. I will gladly insert playfair into freenet as soon as it becomes compatible with GNU-Darwin ;-}.

Meanwhile, GNU-Darwinists are also active elsewhere, esp plumber. Check this out.

On 16 Apr, plumber wrote:
> "Initiative against apple DMCA (48 hours ago by plumber :D) >
> create a folder pub on your personal web server > and share the playfair src"
>
> Plumber
>
> http://openjaguar.online.fr/pub/
> http://openpanther.online.fr/pub/
> http://mmw.online.fr/pub/
> http://almisr.online.fr/pub/
> http://monkeyfacepresident.online.fr/pub/

> today I have a little badly with the eyes because the cops were against > to
> the modern art and my vision to offer sharper colors to the decoration >
> :D

Cheers!

Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/

poe wrote:
> I share your outrage. Suppose there was a community-based recording > studio in every community, today. Each location has a playfair app to > hand out to local residents. Forget the Internet. That's the idea > behind Open Studios. Possibilities? I think so.

Definitely, although you are the expert ;-}. Here is what I am thinking about it. We could have a kind of toolkit, which includes key command line tools, such as playfair, but also faad, ffmpeg, sox, readcd, cdrecord, dvd*, madplay, mpg321, oggtools, and esound. Then some excellent gui apps, such as CCRMA Snd, and maybe a nice front-end for the whole thing. People should be able to bring their iPods to an OpenStudio and make fair use of the tracks, especially Apple parodies at this time ;-}. If they bring a computer, then we send them away with our special distribution on a disc, or help them set it up and run it.

> I think that the
> companies then have to mount a different tack, because they can't rely > on people being totally dependent on the Internet, but rather have to > cope with multiple levels of communication.

Yes, and our movement is just beginning to see its potential. Imagine playfair ported to iPod for example, which is just scratching the surface. Spread it in an mp3 file, like a virus, and everyone suddenly discovers the DRM has been removed from all their files. Apple must back down, or face the consequences.

> How fast can we get such a global community-based recording studio > network up and running? Weeks to months, not years. What will it > take? Getting the message out to those who can see the possibilities, > spread the word, and make it happen. What do you think? Want to > coordinate something with Gnu-Darwin?

Yes, this is fun, because our usual network distribution channel is blocked on these items due to the SourceForge/Apple axis, but the music can never be stopped. We have shown that we are able to use our packaging tools to provide software in a platform independent manner. I could send you some discs, or hand them to you on the street, email encrypted, whatever, like the first Neo scene in the Matrix. I could tell you how to do it yourself. Follow white rabbit. The possibilities are limitless.

Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/

woohoo! here is another one.

http://p2pnet.net/story/1193 http://www.p2pnet.net/playfair/playfair-0.4.tar.gz

Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/

Well, I considered that I was already quite busy, but I am open to suggestions of course, especially from you tk. ;-} Go ahead and shoot.

Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org

Consider outsourcing to yet another country? Beginner's luck...

Sure, got something against India and UK? How about France, my favorite ;-}. Spain is now on the list too.

There are loads of countries with more freedom than the US.

Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/

May I suggest that the mirror sites now update accordingly.  ;-}

 Regards,
proclus
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/


 ------ Forwarded message ------
    From: Anand Babu <ab@gnu.org.in>
 Subject: Re: Playfair progress?
    Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:14:53 -0700

 ,----[ Rajkumar S <s_raj@flashmail.com> ]
| Hi,
| 
| Whats' happening in the playfair front? Did we receive any reply from
| Apple?
| 
| raj
`----

 hymn-project.org and playfair.org just came online today.

 EFF.org forwarded me to a US based hosting service provider. 
This provider is well aware of the DMCA and DRM issues and is very
much willing to defend us in case Apple threatens to bring down the
site.

 -- 
Anand Babu
Free as in Freedom <www.gnu.org>