Helping Schools Help Themselves

Posted 21 Nov 2001 at 05:19 UTC by asleep Share This

Microsoft has taken a legal issue and attempted to force themselves upon our children even more then they already are. Forcing a substandard product that costs 100 times more then the compitition is not a lesson I want my children to learn.

Take this as my open offer to help any school in the US in any project that is based on Linux.

I've put up this page to accept requests for assistance as well as offers to help your local schools.

Advice on page content, local contact information, press contacts or other useful feedback would be great to obtain before I attempt my own little press riot :).

Open Source Schools, posted 21 Nov 2001 at 11:25 UTC by Malx » (Journeyer)

Look at this project. I could help you.

You might find this interesting...., posted 21 Nov 2001 at 23:23 UTC by dneighbors » (Master)

RedHat counters M$ proposal...

Most Excellent Link

We can make a difference here, posted 22 Nov 2001 at 08:07 UTC by sethcohn » (Master)

from cenow/

Judge J. Frederick Motz has invited written comments from interested third parties via fax. We strongly encourage you to fax your comments. He will make his final decision whether or not to accept the settlement in a hearing on Tuesday, Nov 27. This is your last chance to influence this settlement.

Hon. Judge J. Frederick Motz H.S. District Court for the District of Maryland

Fax #: (410) 962-7574


Keep in mind this is the SAME judge who ruled in Microsoft's favor earlier in the year...

The ruling by U.S. District Judge J. Frederick Motz eliminates the largest block of consumer lawsuits spawned by another federal judge's finding in June that Microsoft illegally defended its Windows monopoly for personal computer operating software.

In Friday's decision, Motz rejected arguments that consumers who bought Windows installed on PCs or through retailers were direct purchasers because they obtained a license to use the product from Microsoft.

''Although the (licensing agreement) may establish a direct relationship between Microsoft and the consumer, that relationship is not sufficient to make the consumer a 'direct purchaser,''' Motz ruled.

So, by that logic, if he accepts this settlement proposal from M$, he is making all of these students indirect users, since they won't be 'purchasers' either... (well for the first 5 years at least.) Ironic, huh?

I suggest mentioning his earlier ruling in your faxes... keep him on his toes and let him know that, Yes, alternatives SHOULD be explored, before he makes all of these students subjects to more M$ monopoly planning.

SEUL - Education, posted 23 Nov 2001 at 12:55 UTC by jneves » (Journeyer)

The SEUL - Education project has links to several projects that will help both school's management and teachers. Check the regular reports as well.

Microsoft replies to critics, posted 23 Nov 2001 at 20:17 UTC by rafeco » (Journeyer)

Microsoft says that the terms of the settlement are technology agnostic. The free software they provide will be Microsoft's, of course, but the cash for computers and support can go to buy anything that the schools want to buy.

Roots, posted 6 Feb 2002 at 10:32 UTC by realblades » (Journeyer)

There are deep-rooted problems in trying to get a non-windows system into a school: People.

Not the kids/pupils/students but the old folk.

If you've ever read some, for example, helpdesk horror stories, you know how mentally inflexible people try to force everything new into their narrow little worlds. This is exactly the type that runs most schools and the world that they recognize as something that matters to them (parents, teachers)

"Kids today" see computers up nearly from the time they can tell things on the screen at their parents' machines. These machines quite often run windows. Because many parents won't run anything else. They are afraid of being looked down for using a dumb system made "for the rest of us". They are afraid of using a system that will be too technical and they'll get lost in it. They are afrais of using a system that will cost much or leave them with no support path or any system the neighbour doesn't use. Apart from the neighbour detail this is all generally false, but I'll try to keep that out of this writing. For all statistical purposes as far as schoolboards or whatnot are concerned, this means anything else is marginal. You would need a HUGE impact before anyone even notices change.

Otherwise, it's a continum that carries on on "Because that's what they will be using in $NEXT_PLACE" and "Because that's what they have learned to use". Anything short of registering a religion that opposes such (and such is very hard to define) probably wouldn't even get a special permission with voluntary work to set up an alternative.

"Educational" software as well as toy software is made for these people by

these people. And it's all made in closed model for windows and put available in boxes in a nearby store. A store-carried product is automatically considered good and guaranteed even while it most likely is everything but.

Only at university level (and rarely, step down in lyceums) you'll start seeing real computers today.

Most of us know this is wrong and those ideas are completely ridiculous. Most people reading this can probably understand simple new ideas, analogies etc and computers look very logical to you and me. But there are people who will not flex in their ideas and beliefs. People who are only slowly giving in to the idea of having computers at all and least of all things that require intelligence to operate instead of being "safe and sure". These people are the decision-makers. This has always been so. It's practically human nature. Sokrates was sentenced to death for trying to get people to think.

"Civilization" has come a long way since and we can only hope that progress will continue and there will be a more understanding, logical; you could say more intelligent race. Until that, it's a long, hard struggle and there is no silver bullet. Servers may provide a door in as will the pressure from higher education and "real world".

"Just my 2 cents", like people used to say across the pond before the times of flat-rate access =)

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